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Bug #5108

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adapt differential traces' properties to intended layer built-up for upcoming production run

Added by mschramm about 3 years ago. Updated about 3 years ago.

Status:
Resolved
Priority:
Normal
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Category:
electronics
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% Done:

100%


Description

The layer stack-up of the orginal PCBAs differs to what we are going to produce. Changing the materials for the layer stack means no pooling option, so let's change the three differential pairs to the following values:

  • wire track width: 0,184 mm
  • wire track spacing 0,194 mm

These values here result in characteristic impedance of 50 Ohms and a minimum differential impedance of 90 Ohms. Affected are the pairs

  • TARGETDTAP_N / ~_P
  • USB_N / ~_P
  • TARGETD_N / ~_P

As discussed, please also make them a 'differential pair class'. We don't insist in sharp 45° angles, you might better want to go with bent traces.

The good news is that if the current design works with somewhat unmatched trace lengths and a nice T intersection, it should mean this is less critical than I might have imagined.

OK, but now we (you) can make it better! ;) Maintain a maximum pair lenght difference of less than 3,81mm (150mil), do a meander where the parallels are disturbed anyway, and not at a sane end. This might only be needed for TARGETDTAP_*, which unfortunately crosses a THT header. Don't introduce more vias on those traces.

If you want to 'play' with the inbuilt diff pair helper tool (or another tool of your choice): at 500 MHz, the material has an Er= 4,21. Layer distance (height of dielectricum) is 0,119mm, end copper is 35µm. And let me hear your results, if the Altium helper tool is far off the mentioned values.


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differential pairs rule.png View differential pairs rule.png 97.7 KB cibomahto, 04/09/2021 09:14 PM
matched length rule.png View matched length rule.png 90.8 KB cibomahto, 04/09/2021 09:14 PM
targetd.png View targetd.png 284 KB cibomahto, 04/09/2021 09:14 PM
targetdtap.png View targetdtap.png 613 KB cibomahto, 04/09/2021 09:14 PM
usb.png View usb.png 270 KB cibomahto, 04/09/2021 09:14 PM
altium_impedance_calculation differential.png View altium_impedance_calculation differential.png 109 KB cibomahto, 04/09/2021 09:25 PM
altium_impedance_calculation_single.png View altium_impedance_calculation_single.png 107 KB cibomahto, 04/09/2021 09:25 PM
restring-inner-layer1-stitching-vias.jpg View restring-inner-layer1-stitching-vias.jpg 14.4 KB mschramm, 04/10/2021 10:12 PM
restring-inner-layer1-stitching-vias-gerbv.jpg View restring-inner-layer1-stitching-vias-gerbv.jpg 45.1 KB mschramm, 04/10/2021 10:12 PM
move vias.png View move vias.png 358 KB cibomahto, 04/11/2021 02:50 PM
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